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title: "Plasma & Kate on Wayland end of 2021"
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date: 2021-12-18T19:25:00+02:00
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draft: false
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categories: [kde]
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tags: [kde]
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url: /posts/plasma-kate-wayland-2021/
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author: "Christoph Cullmann"
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- name: "featured-image-preview"
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src: "images/plasma-kate-diablo-wayland-small.webp"
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---
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## Wayland, the future after X11
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Since years [Wayland](https://wayland.freedesktop.org/) based compositors are promoted as the successors to the venerable [X.org](https://www.x.org) X11 display server.
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In the embedded space it seems Wayland already has made a lot of progress and some distributions start to use it per default, too.
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## My experience of the past years
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I tried Wayland over the last few years multiple times, but I most often needed to go back to X11 due to random crashes/displaying issues/... (independent of the compositor, I tried a few).
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I just had always bad luck with the drivers and Wayland.
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On top of that came issues in the remaining stack, too.
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Unfortunately, as long as my setup didn't run Wayland at all in any stable way, I didn't really spend a lot of time to actually debug/fix issues even in Kate or KTextEditor.
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It's just easier to scratch your own itch then to invest time in stuff you not use yourself at all.
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## My experience end of 2021
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Two months ago, I tried Wayland once more on my [Arch Linux](https://archlinux.org) machine after some short journey to FreeBSD ;)
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And great, it worked out of the box.
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Not random crashing of the compositor, no strange fractals on my second screen, all fine.
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Now that I can use KDE Plasma & Kate on my normal machine on Wayland every day, I started to get more drive to take a look at remaining Wayland issues.
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Aleix Pol Gonzalez & David Edmundson did a fantastic job to help out with remaining issues.
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Naturally, not all is perfect for Kate on Wayland, e.g. you still get with each start some
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> qt.qpa.wayland: Wayland does not support QWindow::requestActivate()
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indicating not all kinds of window activation work as intended at the moment.
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But the 21.12 release of Kate should at least have the most obvious issues fixed.
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I use now the KDE Plasma Wayland session as my daily driver since two months without any large issues.
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I not once had a compositor crash nor any strange displaying issues.
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As mentioned above, still small issues remain to be fixed for Kate (and for sure for other applications, too).
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But beside Chromium & Wine (even sandboxed as extra user) that still run via XWayland all other parts run native.
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Thanks to all people that worked on this to make it happen.
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I really was impressed after I gave Wayland a try again how well all parts nowadays work together.
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Let's continue to improve that in the next years even more!
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## My current KDE Plasma on Wayland session ;=)
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Even [Wine](https://www.winehq.org/) based gaming in parallel to coding is possible, awesome!
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<center><a href="/posts/plasma-kate-wayland-2021/images/plasma-kate-diablo-wayland.webp" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/plasma-kate-wayland-2021/images/plasma-kate-diablo-wayland-small.webp"></a></center>
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## Try it out!
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I can encourage all to give Wayland a try, if you are on some up-to-date distribution like Arch Linux.
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At least on my mid-class AMD graphics card Wayland works flawless with the open-source driver.
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Naturally the experience can differ for other setups, like it did for me in the past.
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## Help out!
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If you encounter issues, please report them as bug reports to the respective upstream projects.
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And naturally, any help in fixing them would be welcome, too.
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For Kate/KTextEditor I might be able to at least reproduce and try to fix them now myself, given I use it now daily, thought other projects might rely more on external contributors to get the rough edges fledged out.
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