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In this rather lengthy post I talk a bit about the current issues with icons for the KDE applications I work on or use.
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Let's start with looking at what I mean with KDE applications and what the current state is, up to KDE Frameworks 6.2 and current KDE Gear 24.04.
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Let's start with looking at what I mean with KDE applications and what the current state is, up to KDE Frameworks 6.2 and current KDE Gear 24.02.
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Then let's see what will be improved in future releases.
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## What do I mean with 'KDE Applications'
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The KDE project did their job, at least for Kate I never did have any issues with icons on Plasma.
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## How it shall look...
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### Linux & BSDs
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Below a screenshot of Kate 24.02 running on Plasma 6. All icons are there, they are properly re-colored for the dark theme, too, including not just the used Breeze icons but for example the small Git icons in the left sidebar that Kate has bundled.
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<center><a href="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-linux-wayland.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-linux-wayland-small.png"></a></center>
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This is the vanilla state each user will get if Kate is installed on Plasma (and the dark theme is used).
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There are no patches done during building to achieve that nor is there any extra user configuration necessary.
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### Windows
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<center><a href="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-windows.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-windows-small.png"></a></center>
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<center><a href="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-macos.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-macos-small.png"></a></center>
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## State on Fedora 40 Workstation & XFCE Spin...
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Screenshots taken from the [GNOME bugtracker](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/issues/288), copies to not stall their GitLab instance.
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<center><a href="/posts/kate-and-icons/images/fedora-40-workstation.jpg" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-and-icons/images/fedora-40-workstation.jpg"></a></center>
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<center><a href="/posts/kate-and-icons/images/fedora-40-xfce.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-and-icons/images/fedora-40-xfce.png"></a></center>
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I think that is rather unpleasant and for e.g. the left icon-only border just an unusable insult.
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## Why? The Adwaita Icon Theme no longer follows the FDO icon naming spec
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There was no information that they want to break away from the icon naming 'the world' does assume (given there is a [spec](https://specifications.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/latest/ar01s04.html)).
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And now we have that state for our users there, at least on these spins.
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That is not that nice, we did spend a lot of work to get our applications working cross-desktop and even cross-platform and now that...
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I feel rather infuriated, finding this before going to sleep, even more after reading the feedback in the [GNOME bugtracker](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/issues/288) and that this is just closed as 'so be it'.
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They added now at least a hint to the README:
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[**Private UI icon set for GNOME core apps.**](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/commit/ad605446a829420b659c7f360333e4309a8f4a55)
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Ok, I assume that is then all fine.
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No, it is not.
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Then please don't install it as FDO icon theme and break all FOSS apps that rely on the naming spec...
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If you care for non 'GNOME core apps' to work per default properly on distributions like that, please either get them to fix it (hints are given in the [linked issue](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/issues/288)) or get the distributions to install a compliant theme.
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We can plan to work around this mess in [the future](https://invent.kde.org/frameworks/kiconthemes/-/issues/3) on our side, but that will not un-break the application versions that are now already shipped to our users and non-KDE frameworks based stuff that will just run into the same issues.
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## Feedback
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You can provide feedback on the matching [KDE Social](https://lemmy.kde.social/post/1212069), [reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1chzmya/kde_kate_editor_icons_or_how_fedora_40_with_the/) or [Hacker News](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40230558) post.
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