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In this rather lengthy post I talk a bit about the current issues with icons for the KDE applications I work on or use. In this rather lengthy post I talk a bit about the current issues with icons for the KDE applications I work on or use.
Let's start with looking at what I mean with KDE applications and what the current state is, up to KDE Frameworks 6.2 and current KDE Gear 24.04. Let's start with looking at what I mean with KDE applications and what the current state is, up to KDE Frameworks 6.2 and current KDE Gear 24.02.
Then let's see what will be improved in future releases. Then let's see what will be improved in future releases.
## What do I mean with 'KDE Applications' ## What do I mean with 'KDE Applications'
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The KDE project did their job, at least for Kate I never did have any issues with icons on Plasma. The KDE project did their job, at least for Kate I never did have any issues with icons on Plasma.
Below a screenshot of Kate 24.02 running on Plasma 6. All icons are there, they are properly re-colored for the dark theme, too, including not just the used Breeze icons but for example the small Git icons in the left sidebar that Kate has bundled.
## How it shall look...
### Linux & BSDs
<center><a href="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-linux-wayland.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-linux-wayland-small.png"></a></center> <center><a href="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-linux-wayland.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-linux-wayland-small.png"></a></center>
This is the vanilla state each user will get if Kate is installed on Plasma (and the dark theme is used).
There are no patches done during building to achieve that nor is there any extra user configuration necessary.
### Windows ### Windows
<center><a href="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-windows.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-windows-small.png"></a></center> <center><a href="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-windows.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-windows-small.png"></a></center>
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<center><a href="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-macos.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-macos-small.png"></a></center> <center><a href="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-macos.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-macos-small.png"></a></center>
## State on Fedora 40 Workstation & XFCE Spin...
Screenshots taken from the [GNOME bugtracker](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/issues/288), copies to not stall their GitLab instance.
<center><a href="/posts/kate-and-icons/images/fedora-40-workstation.jpg" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-and-icons/images/fedora-40-workstation.jpg"></a></center>
<center><a href="/posts/kate-and-icons/images/fedora-40-xfce.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-and-icons/images/fedora-40-xfce.png"></a></center>
I think that is rather unpleasant and for e.g. the left icon-only border just an unusable insult.
## Why? The Adwaita Icon Theme no longer follows the FDO icon naming spec
There was no information that they want to break away from the icon naming 'the world' does assume (given there is a [spec](https://specifications.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/latest/ar01s04.html)).
And now we have that state for our users there, at least on these spins.
That is not that nice, we did spend a lot of work to get our applications working cross-desktop and even cross-platform and now that...
I feel rather infuriated, finding this before going to sleep, even more after reading the feedback in the [GNOME bugtracker](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/issues/288) and that this is just closed as 'so be it'.
They added now at least a hint to the README:
[**Private UI icon set for GNOME core apps.**](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/commit/ad605446a829420b659c7f360333e4309a8f4a55)
Ok, I assume that is then all fine.
No, it is not.
Then please don't install it as FDO icon theme and break all FOSS apps that rely on the naming spec...
If you care for non 'GNOME core apps' to work per default properly on distributions like that, please either get them to fix it (hints are given in the [linked issue](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/issues/288)) or get the distributions to install a compliant theme.
We can plan to work around this mess in [the future](https://invent.kde.org/frameworks/kiconthemes/-/issues/3) on our side, but that will not un-break the application versions that are now already shipped to our users and non-KDE frameworks based stuff that will just run into the same issues.
## Feedback ## Feedback
You can provide feedback on the matching [KDE Social](https://lemmy.kde.social/post/1212069), [reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1chzmya/kde_kate_editor_icons_or_how_fedora_40_with_the/) or [Hacker News](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40230558) post. You can provide feedback on the matching [KDE Social](https://lemmy.kde.social/post/1212069), [reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1chzmya/kde_kate_editor_icons_or_how_fedora_40_with_the/) or [Hacker News](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40230558) post.