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+---
+title: "Kate & Icons"
+date: 2024-05-02T00:36:00+02:00
+draft: false
+categories: [kde]
+tags: [kde, gnome, fdo]
+url: /posts/kate-and-icons/
+author: "Christoph Cullmann"
+resources:
+  - name: "featured-image-preview"
+    src: "images/fedora-40-workstation.jpg"
+---
+
+## How it shall look...
+
+### Linux & BSDs
+
+<center><a href="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-linux-wayland.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-linux-wayland-small.png"></a></center>
+
+### Windows
+
+<center><a href="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-windows.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-windows-small.png"></a></center>
+
+### macOS
+
+<center><a href="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-macos.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-on-all-platforms-2024/images/2024-kate-macos-small.png"></a></center>
+
+## State on Fedora 40 Workstation & XFCE Spin...
+
+Screenshots taken from the [GNOME bugtracker](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/issues/288), copies to not stall their GitLab instance.
+
+<center><a href="/posts/kate-and-icons/images/fedora-40-workstation.jpg" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-and-icons/images/fedora-40-workstation.jpg"></a></center>
+
+<center><a href="/posts/kate-and-icons/images/fedora-40-xfce.png" target="_blank"><img width=700 src="/posts/kate-and-icons/images/fedora-40-xfce.png"></a></center>
+
+I think that is rather unpleasant and for e.g. the left icon-only border just an unusable insult.
+
+## Why? The Adwaita Icon Theme no longer follows the FDO icon naming spec
+
+There was no information that they want to break away from the icon naming 'the world' does assume (given there is a [spec](https://specifications.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/latest/ar01s04.html)).
+And now we have that state for our users there, at least on these spins.
+
+That is not that nice, we did spend a lot of work to get our applications working cross-desktop and even cross-platform and now that...
+
+I feel rather infuriated, finding this before going to sleep, even more after reading the feedback in the [GNOME bugtracker](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/issues/288) and that this is just closed as 'so be it'.
+
+They added now at least a hint to the README:
+
+[**Private UI icon set for GNOME core apps.**](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/commit/ad605446a829420b659c7f360333e4309a8f4a55)
+
+Ok, I assume that is then all fine.
+
+No, it is not.
+
+Then please don't install it as FDO icon theme and break all FOSS apps that rely on the naming spec...
+
+If you care for non 'GNOME core apps' to work per default properly on distributions like that, please either get them to fix it (hints are given in the [linked issue](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/issues/288)) or get the distributions to install a compliant theme.
+
+We can plan to work around this mess in [the future](https://invent.kde.org/frameworks/kiconthemes/-/issues/3) on our side, but that will not un-break the application versions that are now already shipped to our users and non-KDE frameworks based stuff that will just run into the same issues.